Curse

ecfarmer · Nov 25, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

lies lies all lies.

anet cant nerf 600/smite, since its a players combination, not a single skill bars.
i cant understand why nerf after 2 years or more with SF skill.

Sincerely Anet Losers.
Create a Game withouth testing, after nerfing alll.
they do not know what they do.

ecfarmer · Nov 25, 2009, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by Winry Sagara

Because the problem isn't the skill itself, the problem is THE ABUSE of the skill. It's pretty different.

if u like one skill, and u will use for eva, where is the ABUSE?
are you kidding?

SmokingHotImolation · Nov 25, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Balanced was always a gimmick; it's a euphemism for Holy Trinity Tank-n-Spank.

No it's not. Many people confuse Holy Trinity Tank-n-Spank with balanced, but it has nothing do with each other.

Jk)Phoenix · Nov 25, 2009, 02:24 PM // 14:24

It would be fun if they restore Roj and Ursans, this 2 added to SF would be 3 choices of farming for everyone... think about it...

u want faster run ever? play sin
u want easier run ever? play ursan
u want an half way between those 2? go with some lame balanceway with roj

this way kinda every profession can play, also if u are not exp'd u still have a chance to make it and ppl could discover back some interest in use again their old beloved builds lol

WTB: massive restore skills! every possible lame build avaiable! all strong, all fun, all easy, big choice!

| Elemental Devil | · Nov 25, 2009, 02:30 PM // 14:30

There's only one thing I hope, and that is that ANet won't nerf too much skills and kill even the more slower/less profitable farms like 330hp Rit and 600/smite and such. Getting much money in guild wars is already a hasle, especially if you want to buy costly elite armor or weapons. And doing elite areas is not a fair option, since many teams won't accept players that aren't that experienced or don't play GW for 24/7 to be good 'n stuff. That's probably one of the major flaws in GW; no matter how hard ANet tries to make sure that players don't have to grind to get good stuff, they always end up doing otherwise. Take Dhuum for example. UWSC (no longer to be called "SC" though) didn't take that much of a hit, as it still complete UW, incuding dhuum, 2 - 3x faster than regular, balanced teams. That's why I'd like ANet to review the changes they made to UW and some skills, and reconsider what monsters get what skills and how hard it becomes. DoA is also a valid example. I don't see that much non-SC based teams around in DoA anymore, simply because it takes too long for newer teams to get far enough to make it worth the time.

Deadliest Catch · Nov 25, 2009, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Why complain its just a game so what if they nerf sf the damage was done long ago.Thats why you see so many people with alot of rare stuff.I know I got mine for sure but only pvp now and can careless what anet does to pve for all I care they can destroy its a dying game and they dont care period.Thank God for AION.Enjoy the dead game sigh....

zwei2stein · Nov 25, 2009, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by the western warrior

Chocobo1 is right unfortunatly i had a hell of a time getting my sin into teams before SF and now with it gone will sins just become unwanted like dervs? i mean really Shadow Form gave sins their main advantage and now the only profession who can really block spells is monks which i find complete bullcrap cuz theres prob 101 ways to stop a meele attack from hitting u

Considering that sins are top DPS class, nope, you will not have issue. Not with smart people anyway.

Of course, if you want to join group that runs farming teambuild, you will have to get on with program and roll wanted profession, but that is problem every signle class has. It's not like everyone can join SCs.

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Originally Posted by ecfarmer

anet cant nerf 600/smite, since its a players combination, not a single skill bars.

Wanna bet?

Holy Wrath: now ends when your energy reaches zero. (Or: Now triggers on damage actually inflicted.)

OR:

Spirit Bond: now triggers on damage actually inflicted.

OR:

Spell Breaker: now also grants 80 armor.

OR:

Essence Bond, Balthazar's Spirit: Now only returns energy when receiving nonzero amounts of damage.

N1ghtstalker · Nov 25, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Considering that sins are top DPS class, nope, you will not have issue. Not with smart people anyway.

Of course, if you want to join group that runs farming teambuild, you will have to get on with program and roll wanted profession, but that is problem every signle class has. It's not like everyone can join SCs.

Wanna bet?

Holy Wrath: now ends when your energy reaches zero. (Or: Now triggers on damage actually inflicted.)

OR:

Spirit Bond: now triggers on damage actually inflicted.

OR:

Spell Breaker: now also grants 80 armor.

OR:

Essence Bond, Balthazar's Spirit: Now only returns energy when receiving nonzero amounts of damage.

u never played 600 seeing that post
sf is probably the only way to get UW done in a reasonable time
even your precious balanced team uses a perma tank

zwei2stein · Nov 25, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

u never played 600 seeing that post

Humor me then, what will you think will be effect of those changes then?

Because otherwise, I can say exactly same thing you said

Deadliest Catch · Nov 25, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

u never played 600 seeing that post
sf is probably the only way to get UW done in a reasonable time
even your precious balanced team uses a perma tank

Alot of balanced teams use a perma tank but they are the ones that bash the SF skill because they cant run one etc.It silly that people complain so much that they get a skill nerfed.If you dont like it dont run it period permas dont bother you just because you fail at uw doesnt mean everyone does and uwsc took some skill might I add.Not all groups did 7 minute clears nor did all groups complete it because some couldnt complete the area they were supposed to.Point is yes alot of people will QQ because SF gets nerfed but lets be honest whats the point of nerfing a skill in a dying game honestly.If you think the game isnt dying you are fooling yourself all anet does is lie to everyone.They told us GW2 would be out this year well gg anet.Maybe Anet should worry less about skill nerfs and get GW 2 out instead of making a great game die because they fail.You have to admit the more crap they ruin the more people leave hence death to gws.

BlackSephir · Nov 25, 2009, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Deadliest Catch

If you dont like it dont run it

Funny, that should be a ban phrase a long time ago.

Quote:

Alot of balanced teams use a perma tank

Tank 'n spank != balanced.
Get it through your heads.

KingXelas · Nov 25, 2009, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

"other prominent farming skills" = bye-bye, 600/Smite.

Also, we already have a thread for this.

that topic is about the update itself of 19th not the actual skill balance that is coming.

Wubbies · Nov 25, 2009, 03:43 PM // 15:43

This is funny.. another sf thread

i still dont see anyone posting anything from anet proving they will nerf SF. if they dont nerf SF im sure someone will post another thread bitching that it wasnt nerfed. i still see no proof in sf being nerfed.

ok thats it im starting a new rumor:

Anet is nerfing the Res Sig...its now going to res nearest foe! OMG anet i quit Gw

/close thread getting stoopid

(spelling-inside joke)^^

KingXelas · Nov 25, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Wubbies

This is funny.. another sf thread

i still dont see anyone posting anything from anet proving they will nerf SF. if they dont nerf SF im sure someone will post another thread bitching that it wasnt nerfed. i still see no proof in sf being nerfed.

no proof? yes we don't have any proof. I have quoted words from Anet's staff that SF changes are going to happen: now if it is really to nerf I don't know but 90% sure that it'll be nerfed. We'll only have proof December if it was nerfed as Anet told or not. I would also to underline that not only SF will suffer changes.

Hamsterarcher · Nov 25, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

I can see why some people want SF out, And why people wanted Ursan way out (mainly elitist players) but at the end of the day Ursan way and most SF team builds bring alot of people together playing side by side and completing areas for rewards. Now that Ursan is out, hardly anyone farms DoA, and with SF being nerfed too, Thats the VS farm gone, Uw + Fow, and then its back to... no you cant come in out group we need this class who has these skills and this title to come.

Gimmick builds help peole actually get into teams, rather than stopping them cus of lack of experiance,skills,titles ect.

I feel this game slowely dying out....Again

snowman relic · Nov 25, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Considering that sins are top DPS class, nope, you will not have issue. Not with smart people anyway.

Of course, if you want to join group that runs farming teambuild, you will have to get on with program and roll wanted profession, but that is problem every signle class has. It's not like everyone can join SCs.

zwei2stein im sorry but you misunderstood me blocking, blinding, dodging, and many other ways melee attacks can be avioded and yea sins have highest DPS making us a prime target for punisher skills (last part was more for pvp) sins have low armor and if their meele ability is impared the only thing they can do is shadow step and from personal experience a sin whos impaired has killed a few of my teams (monk heals sin whos trying to get out of fight in visuana square but mobbed on multiple sides the monk keeps healing sin they kill monk and the rest of the team slowly falls) and i dont know if you have or had a sin before Shadow Form and Eton but sins had a hell ofa time getting grps.

Just.nl · Nov 25, 2009, 04:12 PM // 16:12

And UWSC is still possible.

Click Me

snowman relic · Nov 25, 2009, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by KingXelas

no proof? yes we don't have any proof. I have quoted words from Anet's staff that SF changes are going to happen: now if it is really to nerf I don't know but 90% sure that it'll be nerfed. We'll only have proof December if it was nerfed as Anet told or not. I would also to underline that not only SF will suffer changes.

if like to comment it didnt say just shadow form reginas post leads me to belive they are going to balance it all and to be honest shadow form wasnt that much of a problem before Eton....(hint hint anet)

Blobbob · Nov 25, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23

I think everyone on both sides needs to take a step back, take a deep breath, and remember that this is a 4+ year old video game. Does it really matter this much either way?

"Oh no, people can use SF to get stuff done easily!"

So what? No, really, how does it hurt you? Because your stuff has less value? That's pretty selfish. And the game is 4+ years old, with a community that "mature" there will never be "balance" the way some people are hoping for. People know the game and its mechanics inside out and will find a new way breeze through content (except maybe this new guy) without SF.

As a side note, this is why I always laugh a bit when people say that Nightfall and EoTN "ruined" the game and if they would revert back to Prophecies and maybe Factions then everything would be fine and dandy. No, the reason things are like the way they are is because the playerbase learned how to play and put together ridiculously good bars. If you went back to Prophecies now it'd take a day to a week for the best bars to be figured out and you'd be back to where we are now, only with less options.

All of this talk about the "good old days" is a huge heaping pile of nostalgia and it happens to the playerbase in every online game.

"If they nerf SF then I quit because it's all that makes this game fun anymore, waaaaaaaaa!"

Then quit. It's a game, the whole point is fun. If you're not having fun anymore then stop playing. If removing SF will suddenly make the game not fun anymore then I somehow doubt the game was fun to begin with. Why are you even playing?

snowman relic · Nov 25, 2009, 04:26 PM // 16:26

lol wen Ursan died i know about a whole guild that quit because they played cuz they liked certin skills they didnt care about other stuff